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Dear Community,

Today, we would like to inform you about our new noob protection at OGame, which will be a permanent protection for weaker user. This protection will only be established at new universes, because it will influence the balancing of the game.

The current noob protection will be completely discarded and replaced by a permanent protection. This means shortly:

•no limits according to points or time
•permanent protection proportional 1:10 of your overall points
•in addition you can attack the next 100 ranks within our new military Highscore at any time
•beyond this range, stronger players could not attack weaker players
•weaker user can lose their protection if they attack a too strong users (will be mentioned in galaxy view)
•after 7 days of inactivity the protection gets lost (until your next login)

Example:
With 40 billion points you´re on rank one at the overall and military ranking. Within our new system you are able to attack all users with at least 4 billion points, all players till rank 100 in our military ranking and all inactive user. You can also attack all users who lost their protection due to their own fault.

The protection should offer weaker user the possibility to grow up and get long-lasting enjoyment of playing OGame. At the same time we want to motivate stronger players to interact with other comparable players and not just attack all “noobs” without any risks.


Military – Ranking:

Part of our new protection is our new military ranking which observes the used resources for combat ships and on a percentage basis the costs of civil ships, defense (also anti-ballistic missiles & interplanetary missiles) and also sensor phalanx and jump gates. Thereby we will have the following sections:

•used resource points
•destroyed resource points
•lost resource points

The new structure of our ranking will enable to compare the real strength of all players with each other. By the inclusion of all tactical units you can´t hide yourself behind e.g. just defense units and keep your real strength in secret.


Protection of ships & resources

Also a new part of our protection system is the possibility to hide your resources and protect your ships against much too strong players within a special range. Therefor we will add 3 new building, resource hideouts, and make it possible for inferior fleets to escape from a battle.

Hideouts:

For every type of resources, metal, crystal and deuterium, we will offer a subterranean hideout. All of them will be able to protect a few resources from being looted. The whole process will be done on its own. With a corresponding level of your hideout a special amount of your resources will be always protected.

To avoid confusions in our espionage report the hideouts and protected resources won´t be shown there. This means that you still can loot all resources which are shown in the report. Furthermore those buildings probably won´t need a building lot since they are subterranean and should not strain the current planets any more.

Escape of fleets:

If you are under attack by an overpowering opponent your fleet will be able to escape. That means:

•If the relative strength reaches the limit of 5:1 the defendable fleet will be able to escape
•ACS attacks and holding fleets will be considered summarized
•Defense won´t be involved into the calculation, civil ships just on a percentage basis (probes not at all)
•The escape takes place on its own but consumed Deuterium (per ship the consumption of 30 minutes holding time)
oFleets only can escape altogether. If there is not enough Deuterium available no ship will be able to escape.
oDeathstars, Probes, Solar Satellites and holding fleets in general are not able to escape.
•The automatic escape can be deactivated in the fleet menu, e.g. for moon shots.
•Resources won´t be saved.
•With the help of the Admiral you will be able to change the ratio of 5:1. The other ratios are given by us, it won´t be possible to choose it completely free.

These changes should protect weaker players from a total loss and keep them in the game further on. With the protection of a few resources you also should be able to grow up again despite an attack against you.


Honour points:

As a reward for combats within special predefined parameters you will be able to receive or lose honour points. You could receive them for battles against similar powerful players or even stronger ones. You will lose them if you attack much weaker players. Honour points will be calculated with destroyed military ships (not civil ships) & defense plus destroyed moons.

The honour points refer to the military ranking resp. the military points of both players. With the receipt or loss of honour points you can earn special ingame titles (like emperor or prince of bandits) as well as advantages and disadvantages within the game.

Advantages could be a lower resource protection of your target (e.g. you could capture 75% instead of 50%). A disadvantage could be the loss of your attack protection against other stronger players.


More details about the amounts and proportions will follow later on. You also will be able to check our new system on our upcoming test server. Thereby we will also collect your feedback and maybe change the balancing of our new system again.

With best regards
Yours OGame Team

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Summary about the protection of weaker user

Topics:

• General information
• Noob protection
• Ranking
• Resource hideouts
• Escape of fleets

General information:

• for now, the new version will be applied in new universes, in older ones maybe later, but modified
• all new features have to be tested, subjects can be changed (of course we are open for suggestions for improvements)

Noob protection:

• the new noob protection should be a permanent protection for weaker users
• the present noob protection will be disposed completely and displaced by the permanent protection
• there is no limit according to points and time
• there is a permanent protection within the ration 1:10 of the overall points
• in addition you can attack the next 100 ranks within our new military ranking at any time
• beyond the range stronger players are not able to attack weaker players
• a weak player is always able to attack a stronger one; if this one is too strong for oneself, the weaker player will lose the protection for seven days (this cannot be disabled, for moon shots e.g.)
• moreover the protection disappears after seven days of inactivity (until the next login)

Do I have to comply with both requirements to attack a player?

No, only one requirement has to complied with. That is why we think that there are still enough targets for a player.

Is it possible to make an ACS attack with a weak player on a weak player, who you could not attack without ACS?

At the moment, all players have to comply with the requirement (either 10% of the points or within the 100 ranks).

Isn't the ratio 5:1 overvalued for universes, which are already online?

As a start it will only be put into new universes and there looked at continuously. If we activate it for old universes, for sure we will be able to change the balancing. Occasionally, the targets have to be simply more profitable as the daily farming-attacks. Also middle-ranking players have not to lose everything.
We also think about rewarding attacks on analogically strong or stronger players in addition. But this will come later. For sure with that you can motivate a few people, despite those profound changes.


Ranking

• the military ranking includes the used resources for combat ships and percentally the costs of civil ships, defensive structures (also interplanetary and anti-ballistic missiles), the phalanx and the jump gate
• the ranking will be sub-divided in:

1. used resource points
2. destroyed resource points (incl. destroyed moons)
3. lost resource points

• the real strength can be compared better

What happens to the old fleet ranking?

The fleet ranking will completely be displaced by the military ranking with its three sub items.

Which function does the grey ranking button between points and research have?

That is the economy ranking. That ranking includes nearly every building and 50% of the civil ships (cargos, recyclers, etc.).

Don't you think that the military ranking divulges too much information about the account?

No, because it will not be so easy to analyze an account by looking at the military ranking. It will show more details as before, because we do not want anymore that players hide their fleets, but in some rankings only 50% of the civil ships, defensive structures, etc. are counted. Thus you cannot just look up the ranking and know everything about the account.

Which background do the military ranking and the ratio 1:10 have?

The background is to make combats "fair". By the balance of power provides, no too different players "have to" fight against each other, so it is also an protection mechanism. Besides there will be new features in future to make equal combats more attractive. We need requirements for that.


Resource hideouts:

• three more buildings are added (for metal, crystal and deuterium)
• the hiding of resources goes on automatically
• the hideouts, as well as the hided resources will not be shown in the espionage report

How much will the resource hideouts can store?

The capacity depends on the production per hour. Thereby the hideouts in speed universes store more (there you have a higher production per hour, hence more resources, which you have to protect).

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Current requirement: silo level 2

Formula:

capacity metal hideout = (production of the current mine level per hour analog to the hideout x 20)x 20

capacity crystal hideout = (production of the current mine level per hour analog to the hideout x 30)x 30

capacity deuterium hideout = (production of the current mine level per hour analog to the hideout x 40)x 40

Explanation: If you have a hideout on level 3, the production of the relative mine with level 3 (regarless of wich level it is) is multiplied with the particular factor.

Will it be possible to hide huge resource amounts for a top player?

The resource hideouts are designed for new players, therefore we are reflecting on a limit. Either we will limit the upgrade levels or the costs will rise very fast to
avoid that top-players are able to hide many resources.

Will fields be required for the hideouts?

At the moment fields are required. Although we currently want to change something relating the terraformer, we think that many top-players will not use the hideouts, because they need to much space on the planets.


Escape of fleets:

• the fleet has the possibility to escape, if there is an attack of a superior antagonist
• the defending fleet is able to escape, if the relative strength of the current fighting ships reach the range of 5:1
• ACS attacks and ACS defends will be valued together
• defensive structures will not be valued, civil ships percentally, espionage probes not at all
• the escape goes on automatically, but it burns up deuterium (per ship the consumption of 30 minutes holding time)
• fleets just escape completely, if there is not enough deuterium, no single shipcan escape
• deathstars, solar satellites, espionage probes and holding fleets are not able to escape
• the automatically escape can be deactivated, e.g. for moon shots
• resources will not be saved
• the admiral will offer the option to escape in case of a lower superiority. These values are given by us and it will not allow to escape in case of very small attacks.

Is there a random factor, which affects whether the fleet escapes or not?

If you have enough deuterium and the escape is activated, the fleet will escape (besides deathstars, espionage probes, etc.). You can use the requirement of deuterium and attack a player as often as possible, until he does not have enough deuterium anymore to attack the whole fleet thereafter (to make that strategy possible, we are considering a change of the bashing rules)
We do not know if we have to change the ratio 5:1 (we are waiting for the results of the public test server)

When does the fleet escape?

The fleet escapes as soon as the attacking fleet achieves the planet. The power of the attacking and the defending fleet will be calculated at the beginning of a combat and the defending fleet will disappear after that, if the ratio of 5:1 is reached (the fleet will not fly anywhere, it will only burn up the deuterium of a 30-minute holding time and will not be part of the fight). After the battle the fleet is immediately back on the planet.

Shall the escape of the fleet be innovated to replace saving?

However, you have to save your fleet as usual, because you also can be attacked within the ratio 5:1, than no fleet will escape and so you can lose it completey, and you always have to keep in mind that the attacker can play on the requirement of the deuterium and attack as often as possible until there is no deuterium left, and after that he can attack the whole fleet.
We just do not want the fleets completely destroyed, because the complete damage is one of the main reasons why players stop playing (because of that we have to react and to make it more difficult to destroy a fleet of an enemy with just one single attack)

Why does the fleet escape without the deathstar?

Deathstars are slow, therefore it is just not possible to start their engines fast enough to escape an attack. Besides so it is possible to return not barehanded despite an escaping fleet. Furthermore you can eliminate a highly used help for bunkers that way.

What is with the bunkers? There you have to fly with more from the outset, the escape is already pre-programed.

Especially relating to the big bunkers we have to look at the balancing, certainly they are by now completely broken anent the balancing. We will not get it off so easily, unless it puts good ideas in our heads, resp. such will be suggested.
But back to the fight against bunkers, they are often protected by RIPs and those also cannot escape. Of course, in a combat the DF of other ships is missing, insofar you cannot meet the ratio, but it is actually "easier" to bomb the bunker down, because it is protected by less ships. There it depends on what you want to gain.

The ratio of 5:1 can be advanced by the admiral. Can I see that in the espionage report?

At the moment you cannot see it anywhere, and as soon as you buy the admiral, you can switch to the other ratio. There we can think about a notice, again, but so the usage will be seen in public, and that is actually not the sense.

*That summary is not ultimate, there will be changes depending on postings in the .de-board and PNs by WTH*

The announcement of the protection of weaker user has been updated.
Most important changes:
- fleet escape linked to noob protection (e.g. after player reach 500k points fleet escape is completely deactivated)
- disadvantages for Bandits (and lower ranks): res protection gone (you can raid 100% on first attack), higher debris field (max. change onto 50% ... if universe already have higher settings (e.g. 70%) the higher amount will be used, counts for defense into debris as well (if activated in the universe)), fleet of Bandit can not escape
- added combat descriptions ((dis-)honourable, neutral, acs)
- changed protection setting (0-50k 1:5, 50k-500k 1:10)
- later changes: Dens without required building slot, option to stop attack if defending fleet escapes
- costs for fleet escape
- defense now with 100% into military points (instead of 50%)


Protection of weaker user

Dear Community,

Today, we would like to inform you about our new noob protection at OGame, which will be a much longer protection for weaker user. The shown settings will be updated just for new universes , because it will influence the balancing of the game. Older universes can be updated with much lower settings to avert balancing problems.

The current noob protection will be completely discarded and replaced by a longer protection. This means shortly:

• Protection active till 500k points
o 0-50k points: general 1:5 protection
o 50k-500k points: general 1:10 protection
• in addition you can attack the next 100 ranks within our new military Highscore and players with more than 50% of your own military points at any time
• beyond this range, stronger players could not attack weaker players
• weaker players will lose their protection for 7 days if they attack a too stroong user (will be mentioned in galaxy view; 1:5 / 1:10)
• after 7 days of inactivity the protection gets lost (until your next login)
• fleet escape is linked to noob protection

Example:
With 4 million points you´re on rank one at the overall and military ranking. Within our new system you are able to attack all users with at least 400k points, all players till rank 100 in our military ranking and all inactive user as well as every player with at least 500k points. You can also attack all users who lost their protection due to their own fault.

The protection should offer weaker user the possibility to grow up and get long-lasting enjoyment of playing OGame. At the same time we want to motivate stronger players to interact with other comparable players and not just attack all “noobs” without any risks.


Military – Ranking:

Part of our new protection is our new military ranking which observes the used resources for combat ships and defense (also anti-ballistic missiles & interplanetary missiles) as well as on a percentage basis the costs of civil ships, sensor phalanx and jump gates. Thereby we will have the following sections:

• used resource points
• destroyed resource points
• lost resource points

The new structure of our ranking will enable to compare the real strength of all players with each other. By the inclusion of all tactical units you can´t hide yourself behind e.g. just defense units and keep your real strength in secret.


Protection of ships & resources

Also a new part of our protection system is the possibility to hide your resources and protect your ships against much too strong players within a special range. Therefor we will add 3 new building, resource hideouts, and make it possible for inferior fleets to escape from a battle.

Hideouts:

For every type of resources, metal, crystal and deuterium, we will offer a subterranean hideout. All of them will be able to protect a few resources from being looted. The whole process will be done on its own. With a corresponding level of your hideout a special amount of your resources will be always protected.

To avoid confusions in our espionage report the hideouts and protected resources won´t be shown there. This means that you still can loot all resources which are shown in the report.

Escape of fleets:

If you are under attack by an overpowering opponent your fleet will be able to escape. That means:

• If the relative strength reaches the limit of 5:1 the defendable fleet will be able to escape
o Fleet can not escape in honourable combats
o Beyond the range of the noob protection a fleet can not escape
• ACS attacks and holding fleets will be considered summarized
• Defense won´t be involved into the calculation, civil ships just on a percentage basis (25%: probes & sats not at all)
• The escape takes place on its own but consumed Deuterium (1,5 times the costs of a flight to the next position)
o Fleets only can escape altogether. If there is not enough Deuterium available no ship will be able to escape.
o Deathstars, Probes, Solar Satellites and holding fleets in general are not able to escape.
• The automatic escape can be deactivated in the fleet menu, e.g. for moon shots.
• Resources won´t be saved.
• With the help of the Admiral you will be able to change the ratio onto 3:1.

These changes should protect weaker players from a total loss and keep them in the game further on. With the protection of a few resources you also should be able to grow up again despite an attack against you.


Honour points

For all combats within special parameters you will be able to collect honour points (or lose them again). You can win them with combats against nearly equal or even stronger players and lose them with combats against much weaker players. Into this calculation we involve destroyed military ships (not civil ships) & defense units as well as moon destructions.

The honour points are related to the military ranking respectively the military points of the respective player. With the reception and loss of honour points you can own titles (emperor, bandit) and special (dis-)advantages.

• Top 10 in honour points ranking (at least 15000 HP): Grand Emperor
• Top 100 in honour points ranking (at least 2500 HP): Emperor
• Top 250 in honour points ranking (at least 500 HP): Star Lord
• ...
• Low 250 in honour points ranking (at least -500 HP): Bandit
• Low 100 in honour points ranking (at least -2500 HP): Bandit Lord
• Low 10 in honour points ranking (at least -15000 HP): Bandit King

Titles will be shown within the ranking and in galaxy view.

Honourable combats:

Following requirements can cause an honourable combat:

• Attacker less military points than defender.
• Within a special range attacks has more military points than defender.
• Target is a Bandit while the combat takes place (Low 100).

Attacker can launch honourable combats against every target with more points than himself. For players with less points you have to fulfil following requirements.

• Target more than 50% of my military points during the attack.
• Target not more than 10 military points less than the attacker.
• Target not more than 100 military ranks behind myself.

Neutral combats:

Combats against alliance members, buddies (both in 1:1 attacks) or inactive players are always neutral. This protects against disadvantages in our honourable ranking e.g. while moon shots. Alliance combats with external players can not be neutral.

ACS:

ACS combat is honourable, if:
• Total military points of defender not less than 50% of total military points of attacker.
• …no target is a bandit.

In ACS defend a combat is honourable, if:
• Total military points of defending fleets less than 50% of total military points of attacking fleets.
• …at least one attacker is a bandit.

A player can earn or lose honour points if he has at least 1% of all ships in combat. In honourabe combats you will earn more res since the res protection is changed to 25% (instead of 50%).

Dishonourable combats:

A combat will be dishonourable of all of the following requirements applies:

• Target less than 50% of attackers military points.
• Target more than 10 military points distance to attacker (useful during beginning phase of a new universe).
• Target not more than 100 military ranks behind attacker.
• Target not part of Low 100 in honour ranking.

Through dishonourable combats you can lose honour points. Thereby destroyed defense, phalanx / jump gates and captured res will be considered with 50%.

The defender can earn honour points in combats against very strong players out of the caused damage. Thereby all destroyed ships (civil ships with 50%) as well as losses of own ships and defense will be considered.


Additions:

Following other changes will be given:

• Ranking will be updated every 5 minutes (not completely live anymore).
• Changed formula of terraformer:
o Every 2 level one bonus field -> for example 5 more fields at lvl 10
• In combat report the honour points and flight behaviour will be shown.
• Comabst against Bandits are *always* honourable. That’s why fleets of Bandits are not able to escape and Bandits lose their complete res protection (-> attack against Bandit will take 100% of res in first attack). Also combats against Bandits can offer a larger debris field (max. change onto 50%).

Planned changes for later updates:

• Option that attacking fleet can return without combat if defending fleet escapes.
• Required building slot for res Dens will be removed.

With best regards
Yours OGame Team

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